As I am pressed for time, my response is in English.
>>This paragraph does not represent the free software that support.
>>
>
>Then you support another thing, not to the movement of free software.
>
And if Free Software that you advocate does not honor liberty of the
individual, freedom of the individual - then I will tell you no, I do
not worship the idol you call Free Software. It is not my intent to switch
one dictator for another, but this is what you indicate.
>>Free Software is based on freedom, and the freedom is an option.
>
>Software frees this based on 4 liberties. The freedom to choose
>is not one of them, although the free soft gives many options you. Now
>if elijes an option that escalviza you and flames to that freedom...
>Good, it is the freedom of being enslaved. Your you have right to
>that, nobody it doubt, but it does not have sense that you think that
>I can share that it is good for defending your freedom to choose to
>lose your freedom like prosumidor of tecnologia.
>
The 4 freedoms you refer to are based on the basic individual's freedom.
Perhaps because it is not there, you do not understand that. Maybe you
should consider why these 4 freedoms are so important instead of what you
presently believe.
>>The use of Free software is not based on the domination of the world.
>>It is based on the freedom of the users and the programmers.
>>
>> Therefore, the phrase to 'reemplazar all software propietario'
>>she is inadequate, inexact and deceptive. Perhaps my Spanish is
>>inadequate for the appropriate translation, but Free Software is based
>>on the freedom of the options.
>>
>
>Good, it is the definition of the program of free software,
>written up by his founder you prune to see one of you complete phrases
>of: http://gnu.open-mirror.com/gnu/gnu-history.es.html
>
I am quite familiar with Free Software and the philosophy, having even
discussed it with Stallman himself. He and I do not agree on some things.
Still, he has never said that people should not have a choice. Instead, he
has tried to encourage people to make that choice. What I read from you is
that you wish Free Software to dominate the world. Georg Greve and I have
also discussed this, and I have even made this a point within the PCT
Caucus where Stallman, Greve and many others discuss Free Software. My
liberties as an individual, and the liberties of any individual - these
were not challenged by these men. What makes your argument better than
their silence?
Further, Stallman is not the first person to speak of the concepts of
freedom or of liberty. If the freedoms or liberties associated with Free
Software do not suffer recursion to individual freedom, then Free Software
as you know it, as you believe it - is a farce.
I would rather people have control of their own lives. If that makes me
'less than' a Free Software advocate, I happily accept that and call all
others who try to force Free Software on people charlatans. The end does
not justify the means. It would seem that in hating proprietary software,
some people have begun to act like people who they say that are wrong. They
have become the enemy.
If someone tries to tell me what I must do, I must look at them as a fool
or a would-be dictator. You cannot give freedom, it must be taken by
choice. And that choice, in case you don't know, is liberty. People have
lived and died for Freedom before Stallman didn't get the code for the
device driver. Nelson Mandela was in prison over Freedom. Henry David
Thoreau went to jail over freedom because he didn't wish to pay a tax for
something he did not believe in, and he wrote 'Civil Disobedience' about
the freedom of an escaped slave. Mahatma Gandhi stood for Freedom. Sir
William Wallace of Scotland stood for Freedom.
" As long as men worship the Ceasars <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceasar>
and Napoleons <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon>,
the Ceasars and Napoleons will duly rise and make them miserable" � Aldous
Huxley <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley>
I want no more Ceasars and Napoleons.
>free albedrio is another type of freedom, you are free to act
>or and to act badly if actuas or and you use free software wraths to
>the sky :)
>
>Diego Saravia
>
All freedom comes from the same root. To neglect that root is to create a
branch that will wither and die. That is the way of things, and that
predates the Free Software Movement as well.
Taran Rampersad
Nota de la moderaci�n: Taran dice: "As I am pressed for time, my response
is in English.", es decir que no tiene el tiempo para responder en espa�ol,
lo que nos da pie para recordar a la membres�a que existe la opci�n
Mistica-T para recibir la traducci�n autom�tica de los mensajes en 4 idiomas.
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